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Arhiva nogometnih događanja sezone 2017/18

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Francuska
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27%
Argentina
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7%
Brazil
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7%
Belgija
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13%
Spanija
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7%
Hrvatska
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33%
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Nema glasova.
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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 17 srp 2018, 20:25

Ako netko treba biti partner modrići u ovakvoj ekipi, onda je to ili Rakitić, gdje su neosporno bili najbolji dvojac u sredini na prvenstvu, ili pogba koji je odigrao vrhunski ono što se od njega tražilo, pogotovo protiv nas
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PostPostao/la Rio146 » 17 srp 2018, 20:36

Najviše mi je žao od svega to što je veliko pitanje kada će Hrvatska ponovno imati ovakvu generaciju.

Jedan od najboljih veznjaka na svijetu je Hrvat, drugi je standardan u Barceloni, i zabijao penale onda kada je trebalo, bio je i ostao hladne glave. Gubiš 4-1 i onda kada bi svi već odustali Mandžukić da 200% od sebe i smanji rezultat. Vida - Lovren najbolje uigrani stoperski par na ovom prvenstvu. Kad jedan nije stigao, drugi ulijeće za njega u blok, i obrnuto. Vrsaljko koji je neumorno trčao od jedne korner zastavice do druge. Subašić koji nas je spašavao u dva navrata, i tim penalima. Rebić koji je dobio skoro svaki duel, koji je imao. Perišić se probudio tek na kraju prvenstva, ali dokazao je da je svjetska klasa. Svi ostali doprijnijeli su da se ova generacija nikad ne zaboravi. Napravili su povjesni uspjeh. Iako nije zlato, oni su za nas prvaci.
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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 17 srp 2018, 20:39

Rio146 je napisao/la:Source of the post Vida - Lovren najbolje uigrani stoperski par na ovom prvenstvu.

Nije.
Urugvaj ima bolji, Francuska ima jako dobar, i Švedi i Englezi tu imaju puno toga za kazati

A ako se ponovi... hm... opet 20 godina... mala smo nacija, nemamo kontinurani razvoj igrača. Sada će biti boom u nogometnim školama, a dok se ti igrači razviju... otpilike to je priča ove generacije, zbog 98.
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PostPostao/la Wulf7X » 20 srp 2018, 19:49

Kako se završila priča sa Kalinićem...jel dobio medalju?
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PostPostao/la Eumaus The Swineherd » 20 srp 2018, 19:51

Odbija je uzet.
Seth "The Tarpitect" Rollins

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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 20 srp 2018, 19:51

ne, ponudili su mu je, odbio ju je
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PostPostao/la emirates » 20 srp 2018, 19:54

Barem je ostao dosljedan. Kome sad ide medalja?
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PostPostao/la Eumaus The Swineherd » 20 srp 2018, 19:56

Bila bi dobra mema da je Kolinda uzme.
Seth "The Tarpitect" Rollins

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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 20 srp 2018, 20:01

savez dobije 50 medalja, kako će ih podjeliti je na njima

možda dobije neki kuhar ili netko tko inace ne bi bio na tom popisu
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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 23 srp 2018, 12:39

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PostPostao/la emirates » 23 srp 2018, 15:55

“Arguably the issue that has frustrated me the most over the past couple of months has been the mistreatment from the DFB, and in particular the DFB President Reinhard Grindel. After my picture with President Erdogan I was asked by Joachim Low to cut short my holiday and go to Berlin and give a joint statement to end all the talk and set the record straight. Whilst I attempted to explain to Grindel my heritage, ancestry and therefore reasoning behind the photo, he was far more interested in speaking about his own political views and belittling my opinion. Whilst his actions were patronising, we came to agree that the best thing to do was to concentrate on football and the upcoming World Cup. This is why I did not attend the DFB media day during the World Cup preparations. I knew journalists discussing politics and not football would just attack, even though the whole issue was deemed to be over by Oliver Bierhoff in a TV interview he did before the Saudi Arabia game in Leverkusen.

During this time, I also met with the President of Germany, Frank-Walter Steinmeier. Unlike Grindel, President Steinmeier was professional and actually was interested in what I had to say about my family, my heritage and my decisions. I remember that meeting was only between myself, Ilkay and President Steinmeier, with Grindel being upset that he wasn’t allowed inside to boost his own political agenda. I agreed with President Steinmeier that we would release a joint statement about the matter, in another attempt to move forward and focus on football. But Grindel was upset that it wasn’t his team releasing the first statement, annoyed that Steinmeier’s press office had to take lead on this matter.

Since the end of the World Cup, Grindel has come under much pressure regarding his decisions before the tournament started, and rightly so. Recently, he has publicly said I should once again explain my actions and puts me at fault for the poor team results in Russia, despite telling me it was over in Berlin. I am speaking now not for Grindel but because I want to. I will no longer stand for being a scapegoat for his incompetence and inability to do his job properly. I know that he wanted me out the team after the picture, and publicised his view on Twitter without any thinking or consultation, but Joachim Low and Oliver Bierhoff stood up to me and backed me. In the eyes of Grindel and his supporters, I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose. This is because despite paying taxes in Germany, donating facilities to German schools and winning the World Cup with Germany in 2014, I am still not accepted into society. I am treated as being ‘different’. I received the ‘Bambi Award’ in 2010 as an example of successful integration to German society, I received a ‘Silver Laurel Leaf’ in 2014 from the Federal Republic of Germany, and I was a ‘German Football Ambassador’ in 2015. But clearly, I am not German…? Are there criteria for being fully German that I do not fit? My friend Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose are never referred to as German-Polish, so why am I German-Turkish? Is it because it is Turkey? Is it because I’m a Muslim? I think here lays an important issue. By being referred to as German-Turkish, it is already distinguishing people who have family from more than one country. I was born and educated in Germany, so why don’t people accept that I am German?

Grindel’s opinions can be found elsewhere too. I was called by Bernd Holzhauer (a German politician) a “goat-fucker” because of my picture with President Erdogan and my Turkish background. Furthermore, Werner Steer (Chief of German Theatre) told me to “piss off to Anatolia”, a place in Turkey where many immigrants are based. As I have said before, criticising and abusing me because of family ancestry is a disgraceful line to cross, and using discrimination as a tool for political propaganda is something that should immediately result in the resignation of those disrespectful individuals. These people have used my picture with President Erdogan as an opportunity to express their previously hidden racist tendencies, and this is dangerous for society. They are no better than the German fan who told me after the game against Sweden “Ozil verpiss Dich Du scheiss Türkensau. Türkenshwein hau ab”, or in English “Ozil, fuck off you Turkish shit, piss of you Turkish pig”. I don’t want to even discuss the hate mail, threatening phone calls and comments on social media that my family and I have received. They all represent a Germany of the past, a Germany not open to new cultures, and a Germany that I am not proud of. I am confident that many proud Germans who embrace an open society would agree with me.

To you, Reinhard Grindel, I am disappointed but surprised by your actions. In 2004 whilst you were a German member of Parliament, you claimed that “multiculturalism is in reality a myth [and] a lifelong lie” whilst you voted against legislation for dual-nationalities and punishments for bribery, as well as saying that Islamic culture has become too ingrained in many German cities. This is unforgivable and unforgettable.

The treatment I have received from the DFB and many others makes me no longer want to wear the German national team shirt. I feel unwanted and think that what I have achieved since my international debut in 2009 has been forgotten. People with racially discriminative backgrounds should not be allowed to work in the largest football federation in the world that has many players from dual-heritage families. Attitudes like theirs simply do not reflect the players they supposedly represent.

It is with a heavy heart and after much consideration that because recent event, I will no longer be playing for Germany at international level whilst I have this feeling of racism and disrespect. I used to wear the German shirt with such pride and excitement, but now I don’t. This decision has been extremely difficult to make because I have always given everything for my teammates, the coaching staff and the good people of Germany. But when high-ranking DFB officials treat me as they did, disrespect my Turkish roots and selfishly turn me in to political propaganda, then enough is enough. That is not why I play football, and I will not sit back and do nothing about it. Racism should never, ever be accepted.”

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tldr Ozil se povlaci iz reprezentacije. Necu ga skroz braniti, jer je pomalo seljacina, sto prepoznajem po njegovoj argumentaciji s kojom sam se susreo hebet puta u proslosti, ali Ozil je daleko od najveceg problema u reprezentaciji Njemacke. Po meni je Muller odigrao daleko gore prvenstvo nego je Ozil, a za njega se nista ne spominje. Ozil mozda jeste dio slagalice u kusljusu koji se desio Njemackoj na SP, ali je on sad zrtveno janje, kao sto su bili i Safet i Tino-Sven nakon naseg prvenstva 2014. Veci problemi su i dalje prisutni, a ne rjesavaju se, jer bi to 'otvorilo pandorinu kutiju'.
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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 23 srp 2018, 16:51

Ozil ovdje svasta prica, vjerojatno ima i istina i lazi. No postoji problem po pitanju integracije kojeg mnoge zemlje imaju, a u ovom modernom drustvu gde nikome ne smijes nametat stavove, to je josh izrazenije. Tim vise se ne zele integrirati, a to se lomi na jednoj od dvije stvari - ili jeziku kojeg ne zele nauciti, ili religiji, pogotovo kada ona daje set stvari koji je van okvira zakona te drzave, a krsenje istog opravdavas religijskim slobodama. Ako drzava kaze nema burki, onda ih nema. Ako kaze nema krizeva, onda ih nema. Cim dopustis iznimke nastaju problemi, a uz probleme nema integracije.

E sad, slikanje s erdoganom... Problemanji nego je prikazan zato sto je ta ista njemacka vlada drzala mu leda do prije par godina. Tako da prigovarati na slikanje je jako licemjerno kada si ti nedavno radio isto.

I slazem se, muller je bio problem, kao i izbornik koji ae drzao svog ko pijan plota. No koliko ja znam, on je prilicno dosadan, nema afere iza sebe, pa su mu to sigurno lakse oprostili, posto se dogodi da na travnjaku nisi najbolji. Ozul je bio los na travnjaku i imao aferu van njega.
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PostPostao/la emirates » 23 srp 2018, 17:48

To da se neki slabo integrisu je ok, u potpunosti se slazem s tim, ali je problem sto je integracija glavna tema kod ljudi koji su rodom iz drugih zemalja. U toj istoj izjavi i Ozil navodi kako je dobio nagradu za odlicnu intergaciju u njemacko drustvo, i to je sve bilo tako dok su bili prvaci svijeta, a vec sada kad nisu pricaju o slaboj integraciji. To je vec gdje postaju licemjerni i drze mu ledja dok je dobar, a cim postane los pocnu vaditi iz naftalina probleme. Lukaku je isto pricao o toj pojavi u Belgiji, gdje se referiraju na njega kao Belgijanca kada je uspjesan, a cim zaskripi odjednom mu se spominju korijeni iz Konga. Slicna situacija i u francuskim medijima.

Ja prvi organski ne podnosim Erdogana, i mislim da je citav taj njegov postupak bio glup (vise potpis, nego sama slika), medjutim da li je to stvarno toliko veliki zlocin da postane dezurni krivac za sve? I da li bi se isto desilo da se Boateng slikao sa predsjednikom Gane i stavio potpis 'moj predsjednik'? Mislim da se i previse paznje davalo svemu ovome. Nakon SPa su imali priliku da presaberu utiske, i izgleda da je jedini zakljucak to da je Ozil sa Gundoganom poremetio atmosferu, ostalo je bilo ok. A nije bilo, realno ova ekipa Njemacke ne lici na sebe, i problemi su dosta dublji od slike sa nebitnim kvazi sultanom. Ako se ne posvete tome, to ce biti ocito vec u Ligi Nacija.
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PostPostao/la Sherpa » 23 srp 2018, 18:57

O da, jedan čas će ga pokazivati, drugi član će biti dežurni krivac.

E sada, moj predsjednik potpis je dosta problematičan pošto se time donekle svrstavaš uz njega po nacionalnom pitanju, pogotov ako se do sada nisi smatrao djelom manjine unutar države. Ako si se do sada smatrao isključivo njemcem, a sada odjednom i turčinom to je problem.

Al ponavljam, prigovaraju mu isti oni koji su se do jučer slikali s njim.
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PostPostao/la Mary » 23 srp 2018, 23:14

Njima nakon te slike vise nije bilo mjesto u reprezentaciji njemacke, i nikada nisu trebali dozvoliti da dodje do ovoga da ovaj jadnik koji ne zna niti tko je niti sto je ovoliko proziva DFB. Nadam se da im je ovo skola. Van iz reprezentacije s svima koji se ne zele integrirati u drustvo, on to nikada nije, niti su mu Turkisi oprostili sto igra za Njemacku. Özil je prozivan i dok prvenstvo nije ni pocelo, tako da neka odjebe s tvrdnjom da je pocelo s tim jer su bili losi.


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